Question:
asperger's syndrome?
Rainbow Dash
2008-06-07 05:24:48 UTC
can you get your teachers into sh*t for not understanding the way you do things and class it as bad behavior?

just wondered cause there a teacher at my school that can't be fucked to understand me
Seventeen answers:
~*sunshine*~
2008-06-07 05:30:11 UTC
yes,

they should know how to deal with peoples needs and understand.

go to your head teacher about it
Muteboy
2008-06-07 13:56:06 UTC
I got to a school for ASD kids. Some have autism. Some have aspergers. The kids with Aspergers are really high functioning and their behavior is better in general than those with autism. I have autism but I am high functioning.

If you have a diagnosis of ASD then you should be on an IEP and your teacher should be made aware. Your IEP or 504 would lay out what the teachers need to do with you specifically.

If you don't have a diagnosis then he has no obligation to treat you any differently than anyone else.

If you have the diagnosis but not the IEP you need to get your parents to talk to the school about you having trouble and needing an IEP.

Just make sure you are not using your Aspergers as an excuse for not wanting to do things and acting out. I know some people that have done that and they know better.

Talk to your parents and get an IEP. If you haven't already you will need to submit the doctors tests that diagnosed you as Aspergers and then they are required to evalute your needs and put in the least restrictive environment.

Once you have the diagnosis you fall under the ADA and that means you have rights that are very spelled out.

Of course, Bushes "No Child Left Behind" is a joke and is forcing a lot of people with autism into specialized schools in my area (which is just peachy with me actually)

In most states teachers have to keep up their teaching certificate by attending speakers and lectures about things. Suggest to your school they have a speaker come in and talk to them. There are lots of them out there on the circuit. Some will do it for free.

Anyway, you can also go to a special school if it is too bad. I couldn't cope in a regular classroom so I go to a school that specialized in autism. Now things are much better.

Good luck



Ok I saw your note about the official diagnosis but I also think you are in the UK and I don't know much about their system.

In the US you are protected with that diagnosis. The school must give you an IEP and you might even be able to have an aid.

I use supports at school. I sit on a ball instead of a chair that allows me to move while I sit. I use a weighted vest and a compression shirt to help me. Sometimes I use weighted gloves. The public school I used to go to was hard. They made fun of me all the time. My current school understands it.

Is there any way you can change and go to a school that specialized in ASD?
beetlemilk
2008-06-08 04:24:06 UTC
I totally agree with you. Keep fighting and speak up. Tell them you have a CAPD (central auditory processing disorder) which is the inability to distinguish foreground from background noise and you squirm to wake up the CNS and people think you are ADD and you make noise to help differentiate the noises and get treated as if it is behavioral. Most aspies have CAPD. Just by your other answers you can tell people are not very educated about aspergers or any part of the spectrum. NO autistic spectrum disorders including aspergers are not like the DSM-IV-TR book which at this point is somewhere between a joke and a loose guideline. NO asperger's generally don't have an aide they are too high functioning. NO asperger's can not have a low IQ they are by definition average to above average. NO asperger's generally don't have an IEP because they have no academic delays. Aspies don't get OT unless very young maybe till 1st grade at the latest. SOMETIMES aspie's have a 504 support plan, that most teachers don't understand or don't follow. Try to change teachers, get specific accommodations in a 504, add a behavior plan, and have your parents raise hell.
2008-06-07 12:33:30 UTC
Asperger's is not Tourretts OK?.



As for your comments, what you need to do is to see your counsellor and lodge a complaint with the school that you are being treated unfairly because of your condition.



For those who don't understand Asperger's syndrome, it is:



Asperger's Syndrome is a Pervasive Developmental Disorder that falls within the autistic spectrum. It is a life-long condition, which affects about 1 in 200 people, more commonly in men than women. Those with Asperger's Syndrome are usually of average or above average intelligence.



The condition is characterised by difficulties with Social Interaction, Social Communication and Flexibility of Thinking or Imagination. In addition, there may be sensory, motor and organisational difficulties.



This condition was first identified over 50 years ago by Hans Asperger, a Viennese paediatrician.



A pattern of behaviours and abilities was identified, predominantly amongst boys, including a lack of empathy, impaired imagination, difficulty in making friends, intense absorption in a special interest and often problems with motor co-ordination.



Whilst people with Asperger's Syndrome will exhibit some or all of these characteristics to a greater or lesser degree, many tend to experience isolation and a lack of understanding in their everyday lives, which often results in frustration, anger, depression and a lack of self-esteem.



I have worked with mainly younger teens with this condtion, and whilst it can be hard at first, once you have their confidence, you can have a great relationship with good results.



blessings Rev JackM
happy
2008-06-07 13:20:41 UTC
My daughter has Asperger's syndrome and for all of her school life has faced problems just like you describe. She can't keep quiet in class and likes to shout out. Instead of dealing with this the teachers would rather exclude her or shout at her to be quiet, that just makes everything worse. If teachers took a bit more time to understand how someone with Asperger's feels and behaves there wouldn't be half as many exclusions and expulsions. I have offered to go into school and give the teachers tips on how to best handle my daughter, but obviously most of the time it is easier for them to exclude her. The whole of the teacher training process needs to be updated to include more on how to teach children with an ASD.
Shirley N
2008-06-07 16:03:32 UTC
I am assuming you have an IEP? If not, you need one. You are abviously old enough and well-spoken enough to participate in your own IEP meetings. I fully understand that sometimes your behaviors are not under your control. (My son has Asperger's). Put a request in writing for your school to do a Functional Behavioral Assessment (FBA). You can read about them here: http://www.shapingbehavior.com/images/FunctionalAssessment.pdf. This may help you understand your behaviors as well.



I would also recommend getting an OT (occupational therapy) and Sensory Integraton assessment. Not being able to sit still without wiggling is a sensory issue. Sensory Integration therapy can really help and it's fun too. For example, one of my son's IEP goals for sensory integration is that he will be able to sit still and attend to the class for 45 minutes.



You may also want to ask the school to do an Inclusion Assessment. Your teachers need to be educated on your individual needs but because you are a student, they may balk at listening to you and think you are just a brat trying to get away with bad behavior. I can relate as this has happened to my son. An Inclusion Specialist can look at the entire situation and educate the teachers and staff on how to educate you while accomodating your Asperger's. You can, of course, meaningfully participate in all the assessments I described and be able to describe Asperger through YOUR eyes.



Finally, there are all kinds of different teachers out there. And no matter how hard you try with some of them, they just aren't going to understand. You will find this out in the "real world" too. They will never understand that you cannot change some of your behaviors just as a blind person cannot force himself to see. I am teaching my son to have a sense of humor about his Asperger's. For example, there are t-shirts that say, "I have autism. What's your excuse?" That sort of thing. A lot of people don't understand that Asperger's is a form of autism. There is a lot more understanding out there for Autism than Asperger. If I tell someone my son has Asperger, most don't have a clue what that means. I find it better to say high-functioning autism.



There are also many good teachers and staff out there, too. Sometimes you just have to work through the year and hope for a more understanding teacher next year. If it gets really bad, you may also want to file a formal complaint with your school district.
jdeekdee
2008-06-07 15:58:58 UTC
Schools usually tell teachers to 'label' the child as 'bad' INSTEAD of admitting the childs TRUE problems because they dont' want to help children.



I have heard WAY too many times that teachers have said their administrators tell them to NOT admit the childs problem so there will be no proof of it, so the teacher won't have to help.



THIS is why they say child is lazy, not trying, ect when in fact they KNOW the TRUE problem the child has, AND IGNORE IT!!



The way to get around all this is you have to follow the laws.



First of all, are you in special ed, do you have an IEP plan?



This is the ONLY legal way you can get the teachers to stop what they are doing.



If you DO have IEP plan, your parents will have to call an IEP meeting and request the school to do FBA 'functional behavior assesment' to see what problems you are having, why, etc



THEN, the IEP team (your parents included) will have another meeting using the results of this assesment to make a 'BIP' behavioral intervention plan' using POSITIVE disclipline methods.



When all this is set up, the teachers can NO LONGER treat you bad, say you are lazy, nothing. If they do, THEN they can get in trouble by LAW.



Unless all this is done, there is really nothing you can do unless your parents go and complain to the principal.
2008-06-07 12:31:03 UTC
Your going to hear alot of things but apsperger syndrome also known as AS is a mild form of autism. It is not torretts. Autism a disorder that often relatetes to people with social problems which is caused in part of the brain. Their is range of IQ where some people with AS can be highly intellegent while other people may with it may have low IQ. All and all AS is getting more common amoung the society (5%). And to answer your question there are some AS school laws which requires people with AS to help them.
¢нαяℓσттє ♥
2008-06-07 12:33:09 UTC
Well i wouldnt get them into trouble

My friend had asperger's syndrome and occasionally had to remind the teachers that she didnt understand the way they taught..



So i would probs go up to the teacher and tell them about A.S or get another teacher to tell them and then they'll feel bad aha!
2008-06-07 14:29:09 UTC
I've been diagnosed with Asperger's too so I know what you're going through at school. I would talk to the principal or your guidance counselor about it.
2008-06-07 15:54:39 UTC
In the US-a studnet with Aspergers is eleigible for special eductaion or a 504 plan.



a 504 plan would specify accommodations for the person (with aspergers)-such as being allowed to walk around...
Holly
2008-06-07 12:30:23 UTC
Why don't you talk to he/she after class about it. Or have a word with your head of year/head of subject/headteacher. You shouldn't feel mistreated.
DJ
2008-06-07 12:30:34 UTC
Many students with Aspergers have their own TSS aide who goes to their classes with them. Maybe you or your parents should look into this.
Ginny Jin
2008-06-07 12:30:10 UTC
People with Asperger's know the difference between right and wrong and I am sure you do too x If you are clashing with your teacher then ask their supervisor for advice.
2008-06-07 15:08:38 UTC
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2008-06-07 12:27:18 UTC
you mean tourettes?
Amber E
2008-06-07 12:30:52 UTC
you should print off information about asperger's and give it to them. you shouldnt have to explain yourself. they can read about why you are the way you are.



Asperger syndrome (pronounced /ˈæspɚgɚ ˌsɪndroʊm/, also called Asperger's syndrome, Asperger's disorder, Asperger's or AS) is one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASD) characterized by difficulties in social interaction and by restricted, stereotyped interests and activities. AS is distinguished from the other ASDs in having no general delay in language or cognitive development. Although not mentioned in standard diagnostic criteria, motor clumsiness and atypical use of language are frequently reported.[1][2]

Asperger syndrome is named after Austrian pediatrician Hans Asperger who, in 1944, described children in his practice who lacked nonverbal communication skills, failed to demonstrate empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy. Fifty years later, AS was recognized in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10), and in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) as Asperger's Disorder. Questions about many aspects of AS remain: for example, there is lingering doubt about the distinction between AS and high-functioning autism (HFA);[3] partly due to this, the prevalence of AS is not firmly established. The exact cause of AS is unknown, although research supports the likelihood of a genetic basis, and brain imaging techniques have identified structural and functional differences in specific regions of the brain.

There is no single treatment for Asperger syndrome, and the effectiveness of particular interventions is supported by only limited data. Intervention is aimed at improving symptoms and function. The mainstay of treatment is behavioral therapy, focusing on specific deficits to address poor communication skills, obsessive or repetitive routines, and clumsiness. Most individuals with AS can learn to cope with their differences, but may continue to need moral support and encouragement to maintain an independent life.[4] Researchers and people with AS have contributed to a shift in attitudes away from the notion that AS is a deviation from the norm that must be treated or cured, and towards the view that AS is a difference rather than a disability.[5Classification



Asperger syndrome is one of the autism spectrum disorders (ASD) or pervasive developmental disorders (PDD), which are a spectrum of psychological conditions that are characterized by abnormalities of social interaction and communication that pervade the individual's functioning, and by restricted and repetitive interests and behavior. Like other psychological development disorders, ASD begins in infancy or childhood, has a steady course without remission or relapse, and has impairments that result from maturation-related changes in various systems of the brain.[6] ASD, in turn, is a subset of the broader autism phenotype (BAP), which describes individuals who may not have ASD but do have autistic-like traits, such as social deficits.[7] Of the other four ASD forms, autism is the most similar to AS in signs and likely causes but its diagnosis requires impaired communication and allows delay in cognitive development; Rett syndrome and childhood disintegrative disorder share several signs with autism, but may have unrelated causes; and pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS) is diagnosed when the criteria for a more specific disorder are unmet.[8] The extent of the overlap between AS and high-functioning autism (HFA—autism unaccompanied by mental retardation) is unclear.[3][9][10][11] The current ASD classification may not reflect the true nature of the conditions.[12]

Characteristics



A pervasive developmental disorder, Asperger syndrome is distinguished by a pattern of symptoms rather than a single symptom. It is characterized by qualitative impairment in social interaction, by stereotyped and restricted patterns of activities and interests, and by no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or general delay in language.[13] Intense preoccupation with a narrow subject, one-sided verbosity, restricted prosody and intonation, and motor clumsiness are typical of the condition, but are not required for diagnosis.[3]

Social interaction

The lack of demonstrated empathy is possibly the most dysfunctional aspect of Asperger syndrome.[2] Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or enjoy spontaneous interests or achievements with others, a lack of social or emotional reciprocity, and impaired nonverbal behaviors such as eye contact, facial expression, posture, and gesture.[1]

Unlike those with autism, people with AS are not usually withdrawn around others; they approach others, even if awkwardly, for example by engaging in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic while being oblivious to the listener's feelings or reactions, such as signs of boredom or haste to leave.[3] This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd".[3] This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive. The cognitive ability of children with AS often lets them articulate social norms in a laboratory context,[1] where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people’s emotions; they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations, however.[3] People with AS may analyze and distill their observation of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines and apply these rules in awkward ways—such as forced eye contact—resulting in demeanor that appears rigid or socially naïve. Childhood desires for companionship can be numbed through a history of failed social encounters.[1]

The hypothesis that individuals with AS are predisposed to violent or criminal behavior has been investigated and found to be unsupported by data.[1][14] More evidence suggests children with AS are victims rather than victimizers.[15]

Restricted and repetitive interests and behavior





Those with AS often display intense interests, such as this boy's fascination with molecular structure.

People with Asperger syndrome display behavior, interests, and activities that are restricted and repetitive and are sometimes abnormally intense or focused. They may stick to inflexible routines or rituals, move in stereotyped and repetitive ways, or preoccupy themselves with parts of objects.[13]

Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features of AS.[1] Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as dinosaurs or deep fat fryers, without necessarily having genuine understanding of the broader topic.[1][3] For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography.[1] This behavior is usually apparent by grade school, typically age 5 or 6 in the United States.[1] Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed. Because topics such as dinosaurs often capture the interest of children, this symptom may go unrecognized.[3]

Stereotyped and repetitive motor behaviors are a core part of the diagnosis of AS and other ASDs.[16] They include hand movements such as flapping or twisting, and complex whole-body movements.[13] These are typically repeated in longer bursts and look more voluntary or ritualistic than tics, which are usually faster, less rhythmical and less often symmetrical.[17]

Speech and language

Although children with Asperger syndrome acquire language skills without significant general delay, and the speech of those with AS typically lacks significant abnormalities, language acquisition and use is often atypical.[3] Abnormalities include verbosity; abrupt transitions; literal interpretations and miscomprehension of nuance; use of metaphor meaningful only to the speaker; auditory perception deficits; unusually pedantic, formal or idiosyncratic speech; and oddities in loudness, pitch, intonation, prosody, and rhythm.[1]

Three aspects of communication patterns are of clinical interest: poor prosody, tangential and circumstantial speech, and marked verbosity. Although inflection and intonation may be less rigid or monotonic than in autism, people with AS often have a limited range of intonation; speech may be unusually fast, jerky or loud. Speech may convey a sense of incoherence; the conversational style often includes monologues about topics that bore the listener, fails to provide context for comments, or fails to suppress internal thoughts. Individuals with AS may fail to monitor whether the listener is interested or engaged in the conversation. The speaker's conclusion or point may never be made, and attempts by the listener to elaborate on the speech's content or logic, or to shift to related topics, are often unsuccessful.[3]

Children with AS may have an unusually sophisticated vocabulary at a young age and have been colloquially called "little professors", but have difficulty understanding figurative language and tend to use language literally.[1] Individuals with AS appear to have particular weaknesses in areas of nonliteral language that include humor, irony, and teasing. They usually understand the cognitive basis of humor but may not enjoy it due to lack of understanding of its intent.[10]

Other

Individuals with Asperger syndrome may have signs or symptoms that are independent of the diagnosis, but can affect the individual or the family. These include differences in perception and problems


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